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High Ping and Poor Team play
8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #2
by Nikita
Okay Blackakres, let's be clear, you're talking about akj. Speaking about that, let's say also immediately that it's useless to not wanting to give the name of a player you complain about. When you have something to say about a player, whoever he his, be clear from the beginning to the end and give his name, we’re big boys here and =RpR= admins don't manage complaints against person unknown.
Also, when you have to report problems on our servers, you have to bring proofs, as screenshots or video records. There are enough available software tools for that on the web, so, in the future, untangle yourself to get them and to add some proofs to your reports.
That said, your report consists in three major points : akj's ping, akj's communication and akj's behaviour in game. Let's see that.
1) About ping
It's true that we have a rule here at =RpR= : Pings are allowed up to 200. Well, frankly, i personally consider it circumspectly. We have other players here who are in a same situation, due to their location. If i take the example of =RpR= member "superslacker" ( lol BK
) -B-K-, who is into the circuit since a long, long time and who is a well known and, rightly, a very respected and trusted player, he also has such a high ping. Quite honestly, i don't remember having noticed problems of server lag when i played with him. I myself have, these times, a monstruous ping of 300 and more, sometimes even 400, since i use wifi because my internet box is, temporarily, out of order and i didn't have any feedback from other players about a lag that i could bring on server for this reason. That said, i'm not a fine technician enough to tell if the presence of a high ping player brings, or not, lag on a server. I guess our webmaster, betteryouthanme, should be the right person who can confirm or overturn this. I therefore relie, on this technical point, in the judgment of the competent persons, but i personally consider, here and now, that this point doesn't establish, intrinsically, a sufficient reason to sanction a player.
2) About communication
We know that akj doesn’t speak any English, he already reported it. Honestly, i consider this point as a problem. Players who know me well, they know that communication is for me an essential point in game. I talk here about real communication, not just spamming ongame orders as “follow me”, “wait for my shot”, “advance” and other anarchistic bullshit which, too often, we can see here and there on coop servers.
Akj registered at =RpR= since almost three years now and i consider that, since this time, he could have made an effort to learn and practice English a bit, moreover for playing on coop servers, where communication is essential for such a gamestyle (maybe it’s not so much important when playing DM). I have already expressed my opinion about that on our forums. Our rule here, “spoken langage is English”, is for me an important rule and, after all, we don’t ask to players to be able to translate Macbeth by Shakespeare. So i consider that, on this point, your complaint is acceptable.
3) About behaviour in game
I must say that i agree enough with you. We have a rule here, “always play as a team, no lone wolfs desired”. I have already noticed several times in the past such a behaviour by akj, joining an already started map, saying “hi” or “hello” and immediately starting to play as a lonewolf. Doing so, he often ruins all the plan and all the patient progress of other players. I also noticed his tendency to quit the server once being killed two or three times by the enemy, leaving the damage done. I say it again, this kind of behaviour is not acceptable for me, coming from akj or from whoever else so, on this third point, i also consider that your complaint looks justified to me.
In conclusion, i consider that such an incident looks to me as a sufficient reason to give a yellow card to akj, in order that he realizes that he has to change something in his way of playing. I don’t talk about a ban, ban is not justified yet, but a clear explanation for he understands that, when he’s not playing alone, he has to consider the presence of the other players and the consequences of his actions.
Replied by Nikita on topic High Ping and Poor Team play
Okay Blackakres, let's be clear, you're talking about akj. Speaking about that, let's say also immediately that it's useless to not wanting to give the name of a player you complain about. When you have something to say about a player, whoever he his, be clear from the beginning to the end and give his name, we’re big boys here and =RpR= admins don't manage complaints against person unknown.
Also, when you have to report problems on our servers, you have to bring proofs, as screenshots or video records. There are enough available software tools for that on the web, so, in the future, untangle yourself to get them and to add some proofs to your reports.
That said, your report consists in three major points : akj's ping, akj's communication and akj's behaviour in game. Let's see that.
1) About ping
It's true that we have a rule here at =RpR= : Pings are allowed up to 200. Well, frankly, i personally consider it circumspectly. We have other players here who are in a same situation, due to their location. If i take the example of =RpR= member "superslacker" ( lol BK
) -B-K-, who is into the circuit since a long, long time and who is a well known and, rightly, a very respected and trusted player, he also has such a high ping. Quite honestly, i don't remember having noticed problems of server lag when i played with him. I myself have, these times, a monstruous ping of 300 and more, sometimes even 400, since i use wifi because my internet box is, temporarily, out of order and i didn't have any feedback from other players about a lag that i could bring on server for this reason. That said, i'm not a fine technician enough to tell if the presence of a high ping player brings, or not, lag on a server. I guess our webmaster, betteryouthanme, should be the right person who can confirm or overturn this. I therefore relie, on this technical point, in the judgment of the competent persons, but i personally consider, here and now, that this point doesn't establish, intrinsically, a sufficient reason to sanction a player.2) About communication
We know that akj doesn’t speak any English, he already reported it. Honestly, i consider this point as a problem. Players who know me well, they know that communication is for me an essential point in game. I talk here about real communication, not just spamming ongame orders as “follow me”, “wait for my shot”, “advance” and other anarchistic bullshit which, too often, we can see here and there on coop servers.
Akj registered at =RpR= since almost three years now and i consider that, since this time, he could have made an effort to learn and practice English a bit, moreover for playing on coop servers, where communication is essential for such a gamestyle (maybe it’s not so much important when playing DM). I have already expressed my opinion about that on our forums. Our rule here, “spoken langage is English”, is for me an important rule and, after all, we don’t ask to players to be able to translate Macbeth by Shakespeare. So i consider that, on this point, your complaint is acceptable.
3) About behaviour in game
I must say that i agree enough with you. We have a rule here, “always play as a team, no lone wolfs desired”. I have already noticed several times in the past such a behaviour by akj, joining an already started map, saying “hi” or “hello” and immediately starting to play as a lonewolf. Doing so, he often ruins all the plan and all the patient progress of other players. I also noticed his tendency to quit the server once being killed two or three times by the enemy, leaving the damage done. I say it again, this kind of behaviour is not acceptable for me, coming from akj or from whoever else so, on this third point, i also consider that your complaint looks justified to me.
In conclusion, i consider that such an incident looks to me as a sufficient reason to give a yellow card to akj, in order that he realizes that he has to change something in his way of playing. I don’t talk about a ban, ban is not justified yet, but a clear explanation for he understands that, when he’s not playing alone, he has to consider the presence of the other players and the consequences of his actions.
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8 years 6 months ago #4
by Nikita
A trick i often use with an automatic translator is to make a double translation, by example English > French, then copy/paste the result for a reverse translation French > English for control, even better by using another translator ( you know i prefer Reverso )
Replied by Nikita on topic High Ping and Poor Team play
NL wrote: I have little confidence in Google translator
A trick i often use with an automatic translator is to make a double translation, by example English > French, then copy/paste the result for a reverse translation French > English for control, even better by using another translator ( you know i prefer Reverso
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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #5
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